September 20, 2004 Minutes


City of Richmond Meeting Minutes

Regular Council Meeting for Public Hearings

Monday, September 20th, 2004

 

Place:

Council Chambers
Richmond City Hall
6911 No. 3 Road

Present:

Mayor Malcolm D. Brodie
Councillor Linda Barnes
Councillor Derek Dang
Councillor Evelina Halsey-Brandt
Councillor Sue Halsey-Brandt
Councillor Rob Howard
Councillor Kiichi Kumagai
Councillor Bill McNulty
Councillor Harold Steves

David Weber, Acting City Clerk

Call to Order:

Mayor Malcolm D. Brodie opened the proceedings at 7:06 p.m.

 


 

 

 

1.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7796

(All Existing or Potential Comprehensive Development District (CD/127) zoned lots; Applicant:  Platinum Management Inc.)

 

 

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7775
(7100 St. Albans Road; Applicant:  Platinum Management Inc.)

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

The applicant was present to answer any questions that came forward.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

None

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

None

PH 04/9-01

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaws 7775 and 7796 each be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

PH 04/9-02

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7796 be adopted.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

2.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7782
(9051 Dolphin Avenue; Applicant:  Mohinder Gill)

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

The applicant was present to answer any questions that came forward.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

None

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

None

PH 04/9-03

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7782 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

PH 04/9-04

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7782 be adopted.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

3.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7786
(8640 and 8660 No. 3 Road; Applicant:  Empress Gardens Holdings Ltd.)

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

Mr. Tom Yamamoto, Tom Yamamoto Architect Inc., was present to answer any questions that came forward.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

J. Gardias - #10 – 7871 Francis Road – Schedule 1

 

 

E. Johnson, #3 – 8111 Francis Road – Schedule 2

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

Ms. D. Hodgson, 8871 Gay Road, read a written submission, a copy of which is attached as Schedule 3 and forms a part of these minutes.

 

 

Mr. T. Moffat, 8620 No. 3 Road, said that he did not mind the development as it looked good, however, the driveway alignment alongside his property was of concern and he questioned whether the driveway could be relocated. In addition, Mr. Moffat requested that the garbage area be relocated and a hedge planted.  Mr. Moffat was concerned about the possibility of runoff onto his property due to its lower grade level, and questioned where the new drainage pipe for the subject property would be placed in light of the differing grade levels.  Mr. Moffat then spoke briefly about the proposed amenity area and parking.

PH 04/9-05

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7786 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

PH 04/9-06

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That staff investigate the effectiveness of the storm drainage system in the Sunnymede area.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

4.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7787
(7751, 7771 and 7791 Ash Street; Applicant:  Pelman Architecture Inc.)

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

Mr. Pelman, principal of Pelman Architecture Inc., provided a brief summary of the project.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

None.

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

None.

PH 04/9-07

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7787 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

5.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7790
(20471/20491/20511/20531/20551/20571/20591 Westminster Highway; Applicant:  Richberry Farms)

 

 

In accordance with Section 100 of the Community Charter, Cllr. Dang declared himself to be in a potential conflict of interest concerning this item and he left the meeting – 8:45 pm.

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

The applicant was present to answer any questions that came forward.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

None.

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

None.

PH 04/9-08

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7790 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

 

Cllr. Dang returned to the meeting – 8:50 pm.

 

 

6.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7791
(10611 Lassam Road; Applicant:  Birthe Drewnowski)

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

The applicant was present to answer any questions that came forward.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

None.

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

None.

PH 04/9-09

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7791 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

7.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7792
(9271 No. 1 Road; Applicant:  Parm Dhinjal)

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

The applicant was not present.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

None.

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

None.

PH 04/9-10

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7792 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

 

PH 04/9-11

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That the order of the agenda be varied in order that Item 8 be heard last.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

 

9.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7795
8291 and 8311 No. 2 Road; Applicant:  J.A.B. Enterprises Ltd/Sandhill Development Ltd.)

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

Mr. Tom Yamamoto, architect, was present to answer any questions that came forward.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

J. Lee and Y.F. Leung, 8273 No. 2 Road – 2 letters – Schedule 4

 

 

V. Lee, 8271 No. 2 Road – Schedule 5

 

 

V. Lee, J. Lee and Y.F. Leung – Schedule 6

 

 

J. Lee, 8273 No. 2 Road – Schedule 7

 

 

Mrs. Liu, 8251 No. 2 Road – Schedule 8

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

Mr. J. Lee, 8273 No. 2 Road, said that he was concerned that the privacy and liveability of his property would be affected by the proposed location of the internal driveway and he requested that the driveway and access be relocated to the westerly portion of the site.

 

 

Ms. V. Lee, 8271 No. 2 Road, expressed her concern that the proposed location of the driveway would devalue her property and affect the liveability of her home.  Ms. Lee referred to the letters received from the owners of 8251, 8271, 8273 and 8393 No. 2 Road who had indicated their objection to overcrowding.

 

 

Ms. Y. F. Leung, 8273 No. 2 Road, introduced herself and Mr. Simon Chung, whom she indicated would speak on her behalf.  Mr. Chung requested that a 6m setback be provided from the proposed driveway to Ms. Leung’s property, and spoke about the safety and privacy issues that would affect Ms. Leung’s property as a result of the driveway location.  Mr. Chung strongly suggested that an alternative site plan with a 7.5 ‘T’ driveway in the centre of the site be considered. 

PH 04/9-12

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7795 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

10.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7797
12011 Bridgeport Road; Applicant:  Chevron Canada Limited

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

Mr. Larry Hardisty, Chevron Canada Limited, was present to answer any questions that came forward.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

None.

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

Mr. Abdul Rahman, read a written submission, a copy of which is attached as Schedule 9 and forms a part of these minutes, on behalf of  himself and also other small business owners in the area.  The objections to the proposal cited by Mr. Rahman were in regard to increased traffic flow; limited parking; the effect on surrounding businesses; and the lack of requirement for another food establishment in this area.

 

 

Mr. Hardisty responded to some of the previous speaker’s concerns with the information that the restaurant use would be limited to 16 seats within a Town Pantry store, a drivethru, and that the restaurant would offer only a limited menu to service the existing gas customers.  In addition to providing supplementary income to the station operator and Chevron Canada, which offset the demise of service bay income, the program would provide a more effective operation for the current  climate.  Mr. Hardisty considered the number of proposed parking spaces sufficient as 40% of the restaurant business was anticipated to be by drive-thru use.

 

 

Mr. Rahman, speaking for the second time, said that two businesses already catered to the breakfast trade at this location, and further that he was concerned about traffic congestion that might result from the proposed use.

PH 04/9-13

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That the application be denied.

 

 

DEFEATED

Opposed:  Mayor Brodie

Cllr. E. Halsey-Brandt

Cllr. S. Halsey-Brandt

Cllr. Dang

Cllr. Howard

PH 04/9-14

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7797 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

Opposed:  Cllr. Barnes  

Cllr. Kumagai

Cllr. McNulty

Cllr. Steves

 

 

 

Cllrs. Dang and Howard left the meeting – 8:55 pm.

 

 

11.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7799
7820 Ash Street; Applicant:  Norman Zottenberg Architecture

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

Mr. Zottenberg was present to answer any questions that came forward.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

None.

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

Mr. Charan Sethi, the developer of an adjacent property, said that he thought that his development was diminished by the overpowering massing of the proposed development. 

 

 

Cllr. Dang returned to the meeting – 8:57 pm.  Cllr. Howard returned to the meeting at 9:02 pm.

 

 

In response Mr. Zottenberg, with the aid of a photoboard, summarized both the constraints to the site created by the requirement for a 6m right-of-way to the north and the removal of several road allowances, and the efforts that had been made to reduce the massing by bringing the rooflines down.

 

 

Mr. Sethi, speaking for the second time, asked that consideration be given to bringing the roofline down in a similar fashion along the adjacent portion of his development.

PH 04/9-15

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7799 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

 

8.

Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7793
(7051, 7071, 7091, 7131, 7171, 7191 & 7211 Steveston Highway; Applicant:  Patrick Cotter Architect Inc.)

 

 

Applicant’s Comments:

 

 

Mr. Cotter submitted an amended site plan and asked that it be added to the documentation provided for this item.  A copy of the amended plan is attached as Schedule 10 and forms a part of these minutes.

 

 

Mr. Cotter then, with the aid of a site plan, an artists’ renderings and elevations, provided an expansive summary of the project.  Included in the summary was an outline of the issues that had been identified during the public consultation process, and the means that had been undertaken to address those issues.

 

 

Written Submissions:

 

 

R. Conklin – Schedule 11

 

 

K. & E. Chan, 10920 Bamberton Drive – Schedule 12

 

 

W.E. Smith, 7060 Kimberley Drive (3 letters) – Schedule 13

 

 

E. Thibeault, 10280 Hogarth Place – Schedule 14

 

 

R. DeBou, 7391 Manning Court – Schedule 15

 

 

H. Priestley, 10891 Bromley Place – Schedule 16

 

 

C. & C. Schindler, 7420 Manning Court – Schedule 17

 

 

M.S. Lai, 10620 Buttermere Drive – Schedule 18

 

 

P. & E. Ryan-Lewis, 7111 Kimberley Drive – Schedule 19

 

 

J. Hutson, 7160 Kimberley Drive – (3 letters) – Schedule 20

 

 

D. & L. Vanderveer, 7400 Waterton Drive – Schedule 21

 

 

S. & J. Recavarren, 7420 Waterton Drive – Schedule 22

 

 

H. Karlinsky, 7511 Manning Court – Petition – Schedule 23

 

 

Submissions from the floor:

 

 

Ms. J. Hutson, 7160 Kimberley Drive, said that she had paid a premium for her privacy when purchasing her home, which was one of those that would be overlooked from the proposed development.  Ms. Hutson then indicated that she had been asked to speak on behalf of the community and she provided a summary of the accomplishments that had been achieved to date, and an outline of the remaining concerns.  Those concerns included the proposed density, the size of the setbacks, the height and size of the buildings, the traffic and parking problems, safe access to play areas, the minimal retention of trees and shrubs, quality assurance, and the affect that would be felt by adjacent property owners during the construction phase.

 

 

Dr. Simon Baker, 10891 Bamberton Drive, said that he was concerned about his property and the community as a whole.  Mr. Baker cited the increased population density, the access to Steveston Highway, the safety of children and pedestrians, the increased traffic through the subdivision, the lack of amenities in close proximity to the location, the space between the units, and the parking difficulties as his concerns about the development.  In addition, Mr. Baker spoke about the minimal tree retention, the lack of benefit for the area in general from the $95,000 cash-in-lieu of provision of indoor amenity space, the affect the proposal would have on property values/saleability, and the proposed location of an outdoor play area adjacent to a visitor parking area.

 

 

Mr. H. Karlinsky, 7511 Manning Court, spoke about the number of residents only now becoming aware of this process, and the reactions that are evoked upon the awareness that 51 units are proposed.  Mr. Karlinsky did not agree that the project proposed was low density, and questioned the information provided earlier that no affect would be had on property values.  Mr. Karlinsky said that he was surprised that a sophisticated look at the increased traffic along Bamberton had not occurred, and that the requirement for indoor amenity space had been waved.  In conclusion, Mr. Karlinsky said that he had been impressed by the opportunity provided for input, and that he hoped Council would support the overwhelming concerns of this neighbourhood.

 

 

Mr. L. Leung, 10691 Monashee Drive, said that .6 FAR did not consider the number of families brought into an area.  Mr. Leung was concerned about parking on Kimberley and Bamberton Drives, and he spoke about the impact of the proposed setbacks.

 

 

Ms. Geraldine Harris, owner of an adjacent property on Gilbert Road, said that she was saddened that so much public awareness had occurred at the last moment, and she spoke of the fear that might have been alleviated had the opportunity to attend previous meetings presented itself. 

PH 04/9-16

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That the regular meeting of Council for the purpose of Public Hearings extend beyond 11:00 pm.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

Ms. Harris noted her change of mind about the proposal and said that she was very pleased about the partnership of Barry Kavanaugh, as builder, and Patrick Cotter, whose design would exceed expectations.  Ms. Harris then outlined the benefits and concerns that she had about the proposal, and concluded her comments by saying that she feared what might result if this application were not to be approved, and further that a lane would have a greater impact on the neighbouring properties than the proposed site plan.

 

 

Mr. Dana Westermark, 13333 Princess Lane, said that the focus should be on what is reasonable within the City policies for this site.  Mr. Westermark noted the low unit count, and said that other projects of this type have been well integrated and were not offensive within their neighbourhoods.  It was further noted that the setbacks provided were as for single-family homes and that adjacency issues had been addressed, and that to ask for more would be unreasonable.  Mr. Westermark also thought it would be unreasonable to require more parking as a 40% oversupply had already been provided and that to add more would add more asphalt to the site with a resulting loss of greenspace.  At a site coverage ratio of 40% , it was felt that additional greenspace would be excessive.  Mr. Westermark then spoke about tree retention, which he considered adequate as more planting would leave no lot to build on.  In concluding his comments, Mr. Westermark said that the quality of housing in Richmond continues to rise,  and that this project proved a further continuation of that.

 

 

Ms. L. Vanderveer, 7400 Waterton Drive, said that she was raising a new generation of children in the area, and that she had grave concern about the traffic problems that could add to the existing traffic issues on Bamberton Drive.

 

 

Michelle Conklin, a former resident of Kimberley Drive, said that she had grown up in the area, and that it was unfortunate that Richmond had changed to the point that children can no longer play on the streets.  Ms. Conklin was concerned about the traffic volume and speed on those streets, which would be increased further by this development.

 

 

Mr. R. Conklin, Kimberley Drive, said that he agreed with the comments of Simon Baker and Judity Hutson.  Mr. Conklin acknowledged the concessions made by Mr. Cotter, but said that he felt more could be done, especially by way of preserving trees and the urban forest. 

 

 

Mr. K. Lowes, 7190 Kimberley Drive, said that it was a substantial event when so many residents from a neighbourhood, especially long term residents, came out to speak against a development.  Mr. Lowes said the issue was about values, and not fear or a desire to stop progress, and a desire to maintain a community that would continue to attract others for a significant period in the future.  Mr. Lowes asked that the request for changes to the density be taken seriously, and also the impact that would be felt by the neighbourhood.

 

 

Mr. M. Yoshitake, 7120 Kimberley Drive, as the newest member of the community, said that he would not have moved in had he known that 200 people would move into the rear of his property.

 

 

Ms. Geraldine Harris, speaking for the second time, said that she had invested two years of renovation into her property on Gilbert Road and that she had a supreme interest in the house even though she currently resided around the corner on Steveston Highway. 

 

 

Mr. Cotter briefly responded to some of the concerns raised by the previous speakers by providing the information that: the reason for the 6m buffer along Steveston Highway was that it provided greater pedestrian separation from the street; in order for residents of the proposed development to use Bamberton Drive it would require two left turns which would be a major deterrent; the density had purposefully been kept lower to address the concern of the neighbourhood; and, that the setbacks had been doubled and were therefore responsive to the context of single-family development.  Mr. Cotter indicated that the narrow range of viability as determined by unit numbers was already at the low end, and that the number of concessions made provided a responsible and responsive plan.

 

PH04/9-17

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That Zoning Amendment Bylaw 7793 be given second and third readings.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

Opposed:   Cllr. S. Halsey Brandt

Cllr. Steves

 

PH04/9-18

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That staff:

 

 

i)

investigate the existing traffic issues on Kimberley and Bamberton Drives and identify what traffic calming measures and parking restrictions may be applied; and

 

 

ii)

review the access to Steveston Highway.

 

 

CARRIED

 

 

 

ADJOURNMENT

 

PH 04/9-19

 

It was moved and seconded

 

 

That the meeting adjourn (12:20 am, September 21, 2004).

 

 

CARRIED

  

 

 

Certified a true and correct copy of the Minutes of the Regular Meeting for Public Hearings of the City of Richmond held on Monday, September 20th and Tuesday, September 21st, 2004.

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Mayor (Malcolm D. Brodie)

Acting City Clerk (David Weber)